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A discussion about Team Alphachronism

I love the really great conversation we have going in the intro post. There are so many other things I want to know about everyone, so I got the okay to start another discussion post.

Let's start with our lovely OT4. Here are some questions that might spark some good discussion about our favorite alpha kids.

1. Do you have any particular headcanon for Dirk, Jake, Jane, or Roxy? Like having to do with their personality, sexuality, past, etc.
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playerprophet shared her headcanon for how she ships the OT4 in the welcome post (with a diagram and everything). How do you ship it?
3. Do you ship anything inside of the OT4? (Like Jake<3Jane, Roxy<3Jane, or Dirk<3Jake)

Random Bonus Question: Everyone kind of eluded to what mediums they do in the intro post, but I'm curious to know where you think your strengths are going to be when we get going with the HSO. Art, fiction, other media, cosplay, both art and fic, etc.

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Oh boy, do we get to draw charts? I love drawing charts. Here's my general shipping chart for the entire Alpha universe (trolls, robots, kids, Cal) that's only half joking:

(Not pictured: The fact everyone but Jane has huge fucked up semi-sexual fixations on their deceased relatives.)

To sum it up? I just ship these guys as a fucking mess. I love messiness. I love people struggling to make all the pieces fit. I don't ship them as an exclusive foursome, clearly, but I can see them as each other's primary partners.

Breaking it down!

Jane: Of all the upcoming Alpha and Beta kid interactions I'm most excited to see Jane's with John and Jade. I know everyone is all up on the Dersecest angst, and that is great I'm not knocking it, but gosh I want more Prospit drama. And Dad! I want to know what the fuck is up with Dad. I probably have the fewest headcanons for Jane just because I'm so invested in what canon is going to do with her. There's just so much room for her to grow.

One aspect of her I'm terrible at writing myself and would like to see more of is her as a detective! A whole story about her investigating the tablets left behind by the Consorts and piecing together her own future with her friends would be amazing. Myststuck is easily my favorite flash of the entire comic.

Jake: What a weirdo. You folks are going to have to call me out on concentrating overly much on him because I just adore that kid. I'm certain something terrible is going to happen to him in the comic and I'm really excited for it! Also a world where Jake doesn't want to smooch his sexy young grandma is a world I don't want to live in.

Roxy: I think she would be the one most prone to jealousy, though she would have a hard time admitting to it. She has the biggest heart and is perhaps a bit too self sacrificing, to the point where she doesn't get her own needs met which leads to the jealousy.

Dirk: I do think he is at least partially object-sexual. I genuinely ship him with Cal, that part of the chart isn't a joke. I think that for the foursome to work the other kids are going to have to learn to relate to Cal in some manner.

(Also I'd love to see stuff dealing with Dirk and Jade, comparing their experiences having awake dreamselves pre-game. I'll make everything about Jade if no one stops me.)

Generally though my headcanons for them shift as is convenient to tell a cohesive story. My first Alpha OT4 fics were the ones with trans* Jake and Roxy. I wrote out my headcanons for that particular universe here. But that's just one of an infinite number of possibilities for how their relationship could shake out. I'm open to happy endings where they all fuck around on the internet together forever, but I'm also open to endings where Jane and Jake become evil overlords and keep their friends as pets.

In regards to shipping within the group I'm an opportunist. I'll ship whatever fits for the story. The only ones I really ship separate from the others is Beta universe Jane/Jake (aka Nanna/Grandpa), mostly for the sweet, sweet pseudo-incest. In the Alpha universe I'm all about the group smush.

Oh wow, that's all I can think of right now. I'll probably find more to ramble about tomorrow.

Bonus Question!
I'm planning to contribute fic mostly. My art mostly abstract so I don't think it's really what the challenge is looking for. I also make fanmixes sometimes! I made a mini Jake/Jane one that I'm working on expanding, I'd love to know what songs everyone else on the team associates with the Alpha kids.

Oh! Two additional things that might be relevant later:

1, I love text and flash games! I've played around with the different free programs that are out there to make them and would love to collab on one if other people are interested!

2. On a less cheerful note, my health can be on the iffy side, but my sick spells usually come on slowly so generally I should be able to give people warning. I've been doing very well for a couple months, so I don't anticipate sudden cases of the vapors.

YES PLEASE TEXT GAMES and such. I was on team Vriska<>John last year and me made something like that. I LOVE GAMES. I LOVE STUFFING GAMES FULL OF AS MUCH DIALOGUE AND LITTLE STUFF AS POSSIBLE. I really wish I could write for video games. Gosh.

Oh excellent! How did you guys make your game last year? Did you have someone who could code it wholesale or did you use a program? I'm only familiar with Quest for text games and Ren'Py for visual novels. Quest is sort of a pain, so if someone knew of a better way to make text games I'd be interested.

I'm pretty familiar with Inform, which is friendly enough. If we aren't trying to make the next Anchorhead it should be usable by the amateur.

(including me, I am an amateur)

That looks really neat! Thanks for the link.

I'm sooooo down with games. It's such a great fit for them: they're all EXPLORERS!!! and massive nerds who don't have a lot of human contact otherwise and judging by Jane's detection, Roxy's experimentation, Jake's Collect Them All-iness, and Dirk's ... Dirkness, they're all the kind of completists who faced with 999/1000 points would stay up until five in the morning getting the last one.

I have no experience making them, but I love flash and text games as well. Perhaps a flash game or something similar like that would be a great idea for the collab project since it doesn't have a media limit. Plus, that final collab round has the longest time to be prepared (June 2nd until July 28th according to the chart in the HSO faq), so all of us could contribute some really awesome stuff.

Also, I love, love, love your shipping chart. It looks like a big disaster of ships, but all of them work and make sense. It is the most organized chaos I have ever had the pleasure of looking at.

(p.s. I could totally see Jake being attracted to Jade and being all kinds of upset by it, and Dirk being like, "Go for it." Because Dirk seems to have a more "ancestor" view of his relationships with Dave and Rose. I think Dirk would be very supportive of weird, ectobiological incest. Just one more thing that makes me wonder why he is my favorite character.

Hahaha, yep, Dirk is definitely the one being like "I don't get it."

GT: Its not right Dirk! Confound it a young man is supposed to believe that his grandmother is the delightful source of whatever it friggin is on the mainland. Cookies and mothballs I guess. Not a smokin hot babe with an excellent trigger finger!
TT: I can't decide what's fucking funnier here, the airquotes I know you're levering around "smokin' hot babe" or the fact that you think it matters who your genetic donor was.
GT: Well dont forget she did her fair share of raising me. Before she was murdered and cremated I mean.
TT: You might as well admit it now, Jake. You are passionately in the throes of sexual attraction for Jade Harley.
TT: You want to ram your meat sausage into her porcelain cave.
TT: Okay, that sentence backfired on me.
GT: I dont see you being so cavalier about makin the fancy dance with your brother!!
TT: That's because I want to put his head through a wall.
TT: What do you even think Rose and I have been doing during all our councils of war?
TT: The answer is fucking, Jake.
TT: The answer has always been fucking.
GT: ....oh!!!
GT: I get it!! This is all a funny joke! Hahahhaaa!! You really got me there chum!
TT: No.
TT: This is a literal statement of fact. I can see how you'd get the two confused.

Oh yes, it would be perfect for the big collab project if everyone was on board. I played some of the ones from last year's HSO and they are just completely charming and look like the team had a lot of fun. Plus, like everyone has pointed out, it really just works for the characters.

Thank you! Yes, chaos is so great. I think it would be sort of a natural result of these kids' entanglements. They're all up in each other's business all the time so they can't do anything without pulling everyone along with them.

I see Jake's thing for Jade forming before he meets her in-game, during the time when they're sending letters back and forth and he's confusing beta!Jade with his deceased grandma. For him Jade is much more immediate and real than Rose and Dave are for Roxy and Dirk. Not only does he have faint memories of her holding him he can talk to her, but only in little scraps because it takes so much energy to send letters back and forth. So I see him agonizing over every little detail he puts into his messages to her. We see him working himself to the bone trying to get the rabbit right and it's not even for her! It's for John! Jake things John must be the greatest because that's what Jade told him and Jade is always right because she's just the best! That birthday letter he sends to John is so awkward and heartbreaking because he wants to meet other people so badly. But yeah, he rips all the uranium out of all his stuff to make that stupid rabbit just because Jade tells him it's important. It's almost fatalistic how he's focused on that goal and willing to doom himself to get it, I can see why some people think that he misinterpreted Dirk's lecture about the future to think he was going to die on 11-11-11.

Also this comic breaks my heart. I like to think Jake saved at least a bit of her hair and made something out of it like the Victorians. I wonder if he had anything of hers survive the house exploding. Maybe Dirk and Roxy could steal some of her things and send it to him as a gift, just so he doesn't feel so lonely? They both seem to get that it's important to feel a physical connection to your guardian figure, especially Roxy with alpha!Rose's scarf, so I'd like to think that they'd do something like that for him.

On a happier note, I'm also fond of the idea of Jade and Dirk being great buddies. You like robots and yiffing too? We have so much to talk about!!!

Holy shit. I just looked at your chart and I had a sudden idea that I'm just going to drop here before I forget.

That is one elaborate chart, but the moment I laid my eyes on UU I thought WHAT IF

WHAT

IF

one of our entries is from her perspective, where she makes everyone kiss. Or it's a fic that she herself writes about the kids kissing. Or it's a shipping manifesto written by her.

Okay back to your regular programming.

I love UU a lot and I endorse this idea.

I also like the idea that UU and Roxy are both CotL fans and write fanfic that they share back and forth. Because that's adorable.

Oooooh yes. I love outsider POV fic! I actually had an idea for one from the consorts' point of views, telling legends about the kids. Maybe focusing on the last leader of the salamanders (who totally isn't just alpha!Casey, that would be silly) and her writing letters back and forth with the White Queen trying to make sense of the fact the heroes never came and saved them. I just really love the consorts and seeing them all dead makes me so sad.

But UU! She would write the best essays about the human romance. I wonder who she would get to human-pick them for her? Roxy would blab about them before they're even finished. What a terrible beta!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaah yes, perfect! I also love the consorts a lot.

UU carefully tries to decide her ships. Roxy keeps intercepting and shipping everyone with herself. It's mostly a joke, but in the end UU ships them all as a unit. Aw yeah.

UGH THESE IDEAS ARE GREAT??

Yes. Yes. Um, yes and then some more yes.

OMG perfect UU chart is perfect

what good ideas :>

These are good headcanons. I also really love your trans*Jake and Roxy fics! I've actually recc'ed them on occasion! I really love thoughtfully executed trans*fic.

I also really ship Mom/Dad/Bro in the Beta-verse now that we're talking about it. I'm also not against it in the Alpha-verse, because I'm awful.

I made this Dirk/Jake fanmix before we... really knew the kids at all, hahaha. I SHIPPED IT IMMEDIATELY. I generally consider Wires and Waves by Rilo Kiley my Alpha kid song. It's about... long-distance romance and being lonely. Yeahhh.

Precious babies.

I also really ship Dirk/Cal, unironically.

How come I can't edit my comments? I don't understand Dreamwidth.

This is a good team. A really good team.

I know. Not being able to edit comments is driving me batty. I lived on livejournal for years and I like Dreamwidth better now (stupid livejournal ruining livejournal), but there are some things that still just make me nuts about it.

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